Important Product Advisory: Some Coleman propane tanks not compatible with AI PA

Renegade) · July 19th, 2007, 03:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Well, I'm not sure they'll be that sharp at crappy tire. Myself and some AI employees were at various CT's gauging tanks for a few hours each. None of us were questioned and we each gauged over 50 tanks.

I don't know what it takes to get in trouble these days. I rummaged thru the entire display of tanks to gauge across the widest range of serials I could measuring orings with a drill bit set. My guys were at other CTs doing the same with proper pin gauges looking for particularly bad tanks.

Dude, your awsome lol, good work man, I emailed ya for one of those, your a god of cust service Carl.. and ya CT employees are idiots, never ask em for nothing, cuz they really know nothing, most of em anyways.

freecomfighter · July 19th, 2007, 03:30

Just for some clarificataion, If you put the guage in the tank and it goes past the o-ring, does it just come back out after if you turn it upside down or how does it work exactly?

MadMax · July 19th, 2007, 04:29

All the gauge does is show if the ID of the oring is too small which occurs because the retainer ring is squishing it to a smaller diameter. If the ID is too small, it'll stop the tube from falling past so it'll sit high.

If the ID is at the design spec for the tank, the gauge will fall in and fall back out.

Affliction · July 19th, 2007, 04:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

All the gauge does is show if the ID of the oring is too small which occurs because the retainer ring is squishing it to a smaller diameter. If the ID is too small, it'll stop the tube from falling past so it'll sit high.

If the ID is at the design spec for the tank, the gauge will fall in and fall back out.

I'm under the impression that this means that the propane inside will push it back out.

In this case--Is there any chance of the gauging tool falling into the tank and becoming lodged inside?
-VM

MadMax · July 19th, 2007, 05:23

When you get your gauge it'll all become crystal clear. There's only so much I can do with text and pictures. Sorry, I can answer questions until my fingers fall off, but most of them will be answered the first time you use the gauge.

CrunchBite · July 19th, 2007, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by VipaMave

I'm under the impression that this means that the propane inside will push it back out.

In this case--Is there any chance of the gauging tool falling into the tank and becoming lodged inside?
-VM

No, the gauge is just a piece of tube, it can't fall in, and propane is not pushing anything out..

If it sits in the valve, then the tank is good, if it sits on top of the o ring and not nicely in the valve, its no good.

TheRealWaldo · July 19th, 2007, 11:32

I'll restrict the order to local JOC members that I see pretty much weekly then.

W.

Trader rating · July 19th, 2007, 13:24

I avoided this whole problem just by buying mastercraft propane torch tanks they are a lit longger but skinier than coleman tanks and they dont have any issues.

Styrak · July 19th, 2007, 16:20

Some of the best customer service I've ever seen. Hopefully it doesn't cost Max too much.

Jayhad · July 19th, 2007, 16:41

ASA members I have requested that Madmax send these to me and i will distrubute them to you, it's easier for him.

SBranson23 · July 21st, 2007, 16:50

Anyway you could just tell us the diameter of the gauge and we could use a drill bit of corresponding size like you mentioned earlier? Save you the hassle of shipping out a zillion little pieces of brass tubing.

Renegade) · July 24th, 2007, 12:19

Got mine today... man that was fast mail service from Calgary.

MadMax · July 24th, 2007, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBranson23

Anyway you could just tell us the diameter of the gauge and we could use a drill bit of corresponding size like you mentioned earlier? Save you the hassle of shipping out a zillion little pieces of brass tubing.

The tubing is 0.147" diameter. There are no close fractional drill bit diameters, but you can use a #26 drill if you can get to a machinist tool supply store.

The Saint · July 24th, 2007, 13:05

4mm is the diametre of the shaft of a cleaning rod with a single wrap around of tape.

Rugger_can · July 24th, 2007, 13:17

Slap me if Im stupid but wouldnt AWG #8 Wire work? isnt it 3.7338 OD?

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July 19th, 2007, 03:30	#32
freecomfighter Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winnipeg	Just for some clarificataion, If you put the guage in the tank and it goes past the o-ring, does it just come back out after if you turn it upside down or how does it work exactly? __________________ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~Bertrand Russell

July 19th, 2007, 04:29	#33
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	All the gauge does is show if the ID of the oring is too small which occurs because the retainer ring is squishing it to a smaller diameter. If the ID is too small, it'll stop the tube from falling past so it'll sit high. If the ID is at the design spec for the tank, the gauge will fall in and fall back out. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

July 19th, 2007, 05:23	#35
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	When you get your gauge it'll all become crystal clear. There's only so much I can do with text and pictures. Sorry, I can answer questions until my fingers fall off, but most of them will be answered the first time you use the gauge. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

July 19th, 2007, 11:32	#37
TheRealWaldo Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007	I'll restrict the order to local JOC members that I see pretty much weekly then. W.

July 19th, 2007, 13:24	#38
pawscal Guest Trader rating	I avoided this whole problem just by buying mastercraft propane torch tanks they are a lit longger but skinier than coleman tanks and they dont have any issues.

July 19th, 2007, 16:20	#39
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Some of the best customer service I've ever seen. Hopefully it doesn't cost Max too much. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

July 21st, 2007, 16:50	#41
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	Anyway you could just tell us the diameter of the gauge and we could use a drill bit of corresponding size like you mentioned earlier? Save you the hassle of shipping out a zillion little pieces of brass tubing.

July 24th, 2007, 12:19	#42
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	Got mine today... man that was fast mail service from Calgary. __________________ W1-5

July 24th, 2007, 13:05	#44
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	4mm is the diametre of the shaft of a cleaning rod with a single wrap around of tape. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 24th, 2007, 13:17	#45
Rugger_can Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downtown Ottawa	Slap me if Im stupid but wouldnt AWG #8 Wire work? isnt it 3.7338 OD?

Important Product Advisory: Some Coleman propane tanks not compatible with AI PA

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