Up coming TM stuff

[Thenooblord]

I don't know why people think GBBRs are a fad. The reason I play airsoft was to be more realistic than paintball, and GBBR seems like the logical next step

[pusangani]

Originally Posted by scottyfox

Thats quite a generalization. The TM SOPMOD has the same functionality of an AEG with the added benefit of the bolt catch and not sounding like a sewing machine. I absolutely love fielding it and the sound and the snap sure do enhance my game experience.

Of course it's a generalization, in general ebb's are just normal aeg's with a little bit of metal that moves to impress chairsofters/noobs but that one particular TM SOPMOD is different, it's in a different class by itself

[scottyfox]

Aw yeah, dont get me started on the rest of them.
Yuck.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by pusangani

Of course it's a generalization, in general ebb's are just normal aeg's with a little bit of metal that moves to impress chairsofters/noobs but that one particular TM SOPMOD is different, it's in a different class by itself

I've been told that TM's EBBR's are all going to be using a SOPMOD like system... So it wont just "clack clack clack" G&G style.

@nooblord:

GBBR's cool-down effects, limited BB capacity and temperature volitility makes electric win

I'm not sure if you knew this or not, but airsoft evolved from Gas to electric... and these new guns are just throw-backs to the olden' days of Marui Man

Marui Man will come save our souls once again!

[Thenooblord]

I know it used to be gas, but it moved to electric because people got tired of running around with HPA rigs, no? Can cool down in GBBRs not be compared to heat accumulation in a real firearm? and "limited BB capacity" would also be real cap would it not?

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

I know it used to be gas, but it moved to electric because people got tired of running around with HPA rigs, no? Can cool down in GBBRs not be compared to heat accumulation in a real firearm? and "limited BB capacity" would also be real cap would it not?

1bb does NOT equal 1 bullet. Unless your standard engagements are 30 feet... Doesn't work like that.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by pusangani

Of course it's a generalization, in general ebb's are just normal aeg's with a little bit of metal that moves to impress chairsofters/noobs but that one particular TM SOPMOD is different, it's in a different class by itself

Having actually tried the TM AK74, even though it doesn't use the same counterweight system as the SOPMOD, it provides enough tactile feedback to make shooting it very different from shooting a regular AEG. Plus it definitely sounds better.

Properly executed electric blowback has good potential, if people would drop their preconceptions and luddite nay saying and give them a try.

[pusangani]

I've shot the TM blowback AK, wasn't impressed with it

[Styrak]

Yeah I've fire the TM AK74MN with blowback, it was crap.

[The Saint]

Compared to a GBBR, the recoil is obviously limited. Compared to an AEG, well, there's recoil versus not.

Then there are people who are impossible please, and those perfectly content with the idea that airsoft is fine with sewing machines and doesn't need force feedback.

[pusangani]

Im content with knowing that I have the marksmanship and skill to make me an effective member of what ever force I am fighting on, my sewing machine suits me just fine

when gbbr's become developed enough to become fieldworthy then I will explore that avenue

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by pusangani

Im content with knowing that I have the marksmanship and skill to make me an effective member of what ever force I am fighting on, my sewing machine suits me just fine

Electric blowback is not really a personal performance issue to begin with. AEG with or without blowback basically shoot the same, BB, hopup, spring, piston (with blowback models suffering somewhat in accuracy with better recoil). What the issue is is a matter of immersion.

If one's looking at airsoft from a predominantly simulation perspective, force feedback from and visual cue of the weapon cycling (whether electric or gas) is a pretty good experience enhancer.

If one's looking at airsoft from a predominantly round-on-target perspective, well, why even bother with projectiles? Lasers are much more accurate and effective for point-and-shoot.

[Mitchell12]

Not impressed by any of this lineup. Seems TM is affraid of doing anything outside the box.

[pusangani]

of course it's personal, if they work the same way, what other reason would one choose ebb over aeg?

until airsoft bb's behave like real bullets, then we will always be doomed to the limitations of our makebelieve combat world

if people cared for electric recoil then everyone would be using one, not so?

the fact that ebb has failed to deliver a realistic experience is what has fueled different companies to pursue the gbbr market, because airsofters see it as a truer more realistic experience, myself included, and I will probably get one of those once they become more affordable and fieldable.

[KoolAidMan]

The only thing i find usefull on the ebb models is the bolt catching on an empty mag standard aegs could benefit insteaed of continuing to cycle .