Plaged Glock 17... Help?

randas · June 15th, 2005, 17:17

Ok so I got a used Glock 17 (with metal slide, high flow valve, and more) today my porpane adaptor arived and when I tried it out, it fires in bursts... When the gun first arrived I tried it with duster and it worked fine...

Any ideas?
Thanks

randas · June 15th, 2005, 18:44

Update: I took out the high flow valve and put back in the stock valve... The gun dosen't fire in bursts but it needs to be cocked after every shot... its like the inter hammer isen't being cocked or something...

Help?

Grim Fandango · June 15th, 2005, 23:19

Did you upgrade the hammer spring when adding the metal slide?

randas · June 15th, 2005, 23:46

It was all upgraded when I bought it (used) I don't think the hammer spring was upgraded though...

TheYellowDart · June 16th, 2005, 02:24

Did you remember to put in that spring loaded flap at the back of the slide?

Grim Fandango · June 16th, 2005, 02:31

It could be the hammer spring then. I added a main spring housing from a stock WA gun, with a regular stock hammer spring to my KJW P14. After that my P14 was basically doing what you described, it would shoot the BB but didn't blowback so I had to cock the silde back after each shot.

randas · June 16th, 2005, 17:13

The slide blows back, but the internal hammer ( You know the little hammer inside the gun on the main frame ) it dosent get cocked or something because when i pull the trigger nothing happens, no click...

I know its kinda hard to explain, i video tape it later and post it so you can get a better idea.

Thanks.

Rexmin, perhaps you can offer some advice consitering you sold me this seemingley deffective gun.

WhatTheWho · June 16th, 2005, 20:04

The odd thing is, if your Glock was firing in bursts, then it would seem your hammer sear has problems.

Disassemble you Glock as see if the trigger bar is also functioning properly (as you've said the Glock blows back, so I'd assume the hammer would be cocked). The small spring should be pulling the trigger bar up which allows it to release the sear.

You could also do a few test runs of cocking the hammer and releasing it with the trigger to test out if the sear is functioning as it's supposed to.

randas · June 16th, 2005, 21:12

Ok I opened it up and a piece of broken something fell out.. its made of metal and i cant figure out where it came form. (I'll post a pic in a minute)

And the trigger bar seem to be ok, it is being pulled up by the spring... I tested the hammer a few times and it seems to be ok...

Mantelope · June 16th, 2005, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by randas

Rexmin, perhaps you can offer some advice consitering you sold me this seemingley deffective gun.

You make it sound like he sold it to you broken. It was working until you tried to power it using gas it wasn't designed for, right? Whose fault is that?

randas · June 16th, 2005, 21:27

Pictures of the broken part:

randas · June 16th, 2005, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by harleyb

Quote:

Originally Posted by randas

Rexmin, perhaps you can offer some advice consitering you sold me this seemingley deffective gun.

You make it sound like he sold it to you broken. It was working until you tried to power it using gas it wasn't designed for, right? Whose fault is that?

What? I wasen't meaning that, but even then he recemended useing porpane, and the mags came filled with propane.

Mantelope · June 16th, 2005, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by randas

What? I wasen't meaning that, but even then he recemended useing porpane, and the mags came filled with propane.

My bad. Anyway, nice iBook.

randas · June 16th, 2005, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by harleyb

My bad. Anyway, nice iBook.

No prob,

Anyways, back on topic. Anybody recognise what that piece is from?
Grim Fandango- You suguested that it might be fault of a stock hammer spring I don't think this is the case- I dug up the description he gave me of all the upgrades, here it is;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexmin

X1 polished metal slide (installed)

X1 black metal outter barrel (installed)

X1 metal return spring guide (installed)

X1 hard recoil spring (installed) <-- I assume this is a hammer spring?!

X2 mags (upgraded)

x1 Roket valve (installed)

WhatTheWho · June 16th, 2005, 22:42

The hard recoil spring is the spring on the recoil rod.

The only parts to which this broken piece might resemble to me would be parts 77, 83, or possibly 74.

http://www.wgcshop.com/gun-folder/ksc-g17-install.htm

Maybe you could obtain close-ups of the hammer assembly? A better look at where this part may have broken off from might be good. (I'm guessing it'f from part 83, the hammer sear.

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June 15th, 2005, 17:17	#1
randas Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Plaged Glock 17... Help? Ok so I got a used Glock 17 (with metal slide, high flow valve, and more) today my porpane adaptor arived and when I tried it out, it fires in bursts... When the gun first arrived I tried it with duster and it worked fine... Any ideas? Thanks __________________

June 16th, 2005, 17:13	#7
randas Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	The slide blows back, but the internal hammer ( You know the little hammer inside the gun on the main frame ) it dosent get cocked or something because when i pull the trigger nothing happens, no click... I know its kinda hard to explain, i video tape it later and post it so you can get a better idea. Thanks. Rexmin, perhaps you can offer some advice consitering you sold me this seemingley deffective gun. __________________

June 16th, 2005, 20:04	#8
WhatTheWho Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	The odd thing is, if your Glock was firing in bursts, then it would seem your hammer sear has problems. Disassemble you Glock as see if the trigger bar is also functioning properly (as you've said the Glock blows back, so I'd assume the hammer would be cocked). The small spring should be pulling the trigger bar up which allows it to release the sear. You could also do a few test runs of cocking the hammer and releasing it with the trigger to test out if the sear is functioning as it's supposed to. __________________ "The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

June 15th, 2005, 18:44	#2
randas Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Update: I took out the high flow valve and put back in the stock valve... The gun dosen't fire in bursts but it needs to be cocked after every shot... its like the inter hammer isen't being cocked or something... Help?

June 15th, 2005, 23:19	#3
Grim Fandango Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Did you upgrade the hammer spring when adding the metal slide?

June 15th, 2005, 23:46	#4
randas Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	It was all upgraded when I bought it (used) I don't think the hammer spring was upgraded though...

June 16th, 2005, 02:24	#5
TheYellowDart Myoga Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	Did you remember to put in that spring loaded flap at the back of the slide?

June 16th, 2005, 02:31	#6
Grim Fandango Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario	It could be the hammer spring then. I added a main spring housing from a stock WA gun, with a regular stock hammer spring to my KJW P14. After that my P14 was basically doing what you described, it would shoot the BB but didn't blowback so I had to cock the silde back after each shot.

June 16th, 2005, 21:12	#9
randas Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Ok I opened it up and a piece of broken something fell out.. its made of metal and i cant figure out where it came form. (I'll post a pic in a minute) And the trigger bar seem to be ok, it is being pulled up by the spring... I tested the hammer a few times and it seems to be ok...

June 16th, 2005, 22:42	#15
WhatTheWho Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	The hard recoil spring is the spring on the recoil rod. The only parts to which this broken piece might resemble to me would be parts 77, 83, or possibly 74. http://www.wgcshop.com/gun-folder/ksc-g17-install.htm Maybe you could obtain close-ups of the hammer assembly? A better look at where this part may have broken off from might be good. (I'm guessing it'f from part 83, the hammer sear. __________________ "The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

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