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Originally Posted by IRONSIGHT
Well I hope your not a physics major, if so, you might want to take a different career path. Exactly what is it that you think pushes the bolt back in a GBBR, Magic? Anger? Will power? 'Fraid not buckaroo , it's expanding gas (propane or co2). OH and the bolt on a RS rife actually does go back FORWARD as well (believe it or not it's true), and it does so with a hell of alot more force than a gas gun. Even on a GBBR there is more energy being released by the gasses pushing the bolt back then there is after it bounces back forward. If the buffer spring pressure was equal to the pressure of the gasses being released, it wouldn't blow it back. Very simple physics.And by the way there are more than 1 type of operating systems on real automatic firearms. Closed bolt, gas operated being the modern standard. Although GBBRs fire with a closed bolt, they operate internally like an old school open bolt SMGs' ,Stens, Mac 10/11 Uzis etc. but I'm not in the mood to get in to explaning those to you. You can google it. The bottom line is I can let the muzzle climb a bit if I want to, I simply stated that the recoil is MINOR enough that clime is controlable. = MINOR RECOIL
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If you pulled the flash hider/muzzle break off of a real AR, that muzzle is going all over the place. It becomes utterly uncontrollable. The reason the muzzle climbs is due to the extreme pressure release of gas, same thing will happen with a fire hose when you open it up.
The muzzle break/flash hider will redirect gases in an upwrad manner, forcing the muzzle back down and keeping the gun controllable. This is especially evident in full-auto. When I fired an M4, it's muzzle control was quite good, easy to handle, recoil managable. I fired an MP4A4 a few minutes later that had no muzzle break, and less recoil buffering and that fucking thing was all over the place. Very hard to control. The FAL was even worse, it was basically AAA after about 3 rounds.
Having put alot of rounds down an AR, I find it hard to believe that any propane/green gas GBBR has anywhere more than maybe 10% the recoil of an AR. The recoil buffer and spring, coupled with the weight of the bolt, the impinged-gas system, tube pressure, barrel pressure and bolt return speed tell me not a chance. I've fired the WA and Inokatsu, and they were little more than a curiosity, not a recoil anything like a real AR.
The WE may be more, but it won't be much more.
I have fired pretty much every GBB pistol made, and not one of them comes anywhere close to a real pistol.