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Ratters September 8th, 2009 22:22

Ingram/Cobray M11-A1 real "fake" supressor
 
I have found some SMG part suppliers in the United States who offer "fake" real steel supressors. Particularly the dual chamber parkerized version for the MAC10 / MAC11.
Does anyone have any experience ordering these successfully?
Are they considered a "banned" importation item to Canada?

NoGear September 9th, 2009 01:29

regardless of fake or real its still not allowed through customs. its like importing metal slides for gbbs

kullwarrior September 9th, 2009 02:01

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Originally Posted by NoGear (Post 1061578)
regardless of fake or real its still not allowed through customs. its like importing metal slides for gbbs

this always makes me wonder on how people got faux suppresor for their firearms in

AngelusNex September 9th, 2009 07:49

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Originally Posted by NoGear (Post 1061578)
regardless of fake or real its still not allowed through customs. its like importing metal slides for gbbs

metal slides are ok though as long as they are over a certain lengh (average hand gun's slide is long enough) It's the frames that are not allowed.

Crunchmeister September 9th, 2009 10:43

Suppressors are a hit-or-miss thing with CBSA. I had an M4 front end with supressor that went through customs, was opened and inspected, and forwarded on to me. Lots of people successfully import supressors, because it's quite obvious that these lightweight, foam-filled fakes are only that - fakes.

Likewise, many get seized. And if it's a shell of a real supressor that has the possibility of being refitted to work as a supressor, I'm sure it would get seized in a heartbeat.

Ratters September 9th, 2009 22:16

Real supressor shell
 
Yeah, I'm guessing it's a real steel shell that I found advertised. It's fully Parkerized and I don't believe they would take the time to do that with any old "Fake" can.

I'll wait for the proper KSC or KWA supressor or should I say "Barrel extension" to come up in the classifieds.

Drache September 9th, 2009 23:11

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Originally Posted by AngelusNex (Post 1061635)
metal slides are ok though as long as they are over a certain lengh (average hand gun's slide is long enough) It's the frames that are not allowed.

I was told by the CBSA that metal slides, receivers, pistol frames, suppressors, mags with fake bullets, etc are all prohibited imports.

Mainly because an airsoft suppressor with the foam rings can be VERY EASILY turned into a real suppressor (there are many posts about this on American Airsoft forums).

AngelusNex September 9th, 2009 23:56

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Originally Posted by Drache (Post 1062185)
I was told by the CBSA that metal slides, receivers, pistol frames, suppressors, mags with fake bullets, etc are all prohibited imports.

Mainly because an airsoft suppressor with the foam rings can be VERY EASILY turned into a real suppressor (there are many posts about this on American Airsoft forums).

Mags with fake bullets are not prohibited either... they're just a pain as CBSA is most likely going to cut them apart to see if they're real and AIRSOFT suppressors are not prohibited either.... though, same problem as the fake bullet mags. Metal slides and outer barrels that fit in with the legal sizes for real steal are also Ok but still tend to be a pain, though they (I'm 99.99% sure on this) are legal to import for real steal as well withing the proper sizes.

Most the time, CBSA agents are the last people to learn they're rules.

Drache September 10th, 2009 00:22

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Originally Posted by AngelusNex (Post 1062210)
Mags with fake bullets are not prohibited either... they're just a pain as CBSA is most likely going to cut them apart to see if they're real and AIRSOFT suppressors are not prohibited either.... though, same problem as the fake bullet mags. Metal slides and outer barrels that fit in with the legal sizes for real steal are also Ok but still tend to be a pain, though they (I'm 99.99% sure on this) are legal to import for real steal as well withing the proper sizes.

Most the time, CBSA agents are the last people to learn they're rules.

And yet there have been MANY posts of mags with fake bullets, suppressors, and metal slides for sidearms being confiscated by the CBSA on ASC over the years....

So prohibited or not, odds are they'll be confiscated....

NoGear September 10th, 2009 00:50

if i gave false info then im sorry im only going by what others have told me.

it like flipping a coin heads you win tails you lose

and if you lose then they'll always keep an eye on what you import

good luck man mabie you should try and find one in canada?

Ratters September 10th, 2009 00:57

KSC M11-A1 supressor
 
Yeah, I'm gonna keep my eye open on asc and op-for classifieds. Sooner or later one will pop up. The really cool thing is that real steel body pins, tactical grips, extended mag releases etc. are less expensive than some of the airsoft peices.
Did you know that you can put a M4 stock on a MAC10/11?

AngelusNex September 10th, 2009 10:13

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Originally Posted by Drache (Post 1062232)
And yet there have been MANY posts of mags with fake bullets, suppressors, and metal slides for sidearms being confiscated by the CBSA on ASC over the years....

So prohibited or not, odds are they'll be confiscated....

Exactly why i said "Most the time, CBSA agents are the last people to learn they're rules." they don't even know wtf they are doing and what they are supposed to let in. BUT fight it and it would eventually get to you as it is legal.

Ratters September 11th, 2009 01:08

M11 supressor
 
Well, I've bought myself some time away from my own impatience ; ) I found a large nut w/course thread that fits the M11-A1 barrel threads. I used my gemtech M4 silencer. The nice thing about the Gemtech is I can put the nut and washer inside the threaded adaptor, snug it up, thread it on the M11 and voila!
I also made a neoprene buffer that reduces the bolt slamming into the rear of the frame. It has also increased the rate of fire.

This could be the next CQB sneak-up-on-'em, let-'em-poop-their-pants-gun!


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