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Con Murder June 23rd, 2009 01:58

BDU: take no offense
 
First off please understand that not everyone wants to run around dressed like a soldier in the most realistic milsim ever.

I want to make my BDU acceptable by the greater comunity, but am going with hunting cammo for the pants and shirt. A molle hydrapack vest and maybe a belt will keep me loaded up well enough.

How acceptable is this on fields (I wanna game with all you guys!)????????
With mixing the hunting cammo, a multi-cam vest and half mask are people goona cringe and avoid eye contact?

The thing is I already have shitty hunting cammo that works so well in the 20-30 foot range that airsofters find themselves in. I love the idea of looking like no one else would and having my own PMC kinda signature.

In the worst case I would grab the olive drab shit I could for cheep but I really wanna game in the loadout I mentioned. Any reason why I shpould avoid this investment?

Kuro_Neko June 23rd, 2009 02:05

It really depends on who you're playing with. Some players and/or groups are really strict about dress code, even to the extent of limiting it to a specific camo pattern. Most are fine with any kind of camo and really only have problems with street clothes. Some, usually due to necessity, will even accept street clothes.

My only suggestion is to ask the people you're likely to be playing with.

Cheesevillage June 23rd, 2009 02:06

Man. Keep it real and do your own thing.

That said, hunting camo is stupid :D

Airsoft loses all its meaning when people start mixing and matching
gear and gun types/nationalities.

If you want totally useful, built from the ground up, and designed with
only function in mind, go play paintball. Airsoft guns are bound to their real
steel counterparts and in some cases function of the gun suffers.
The same can be said about camo.

Airsoft is about image. A well outfitted and trained airsoft team will elevate the ambiance of play and make it more enjoyable.

Cheers,

Skladfin June 23rd, 2009 02:25

we dont really give a shit here in lower mainland :D

Danke June 23rd, 2009 02:30

Well the guys on here I've seen from Alberta seem pretty serious about turning out with decent gear.

I'd work up some sort of PMCish rig. Plate carrier, tan or OD gear, low key but not looking ghetto.

Cheesevillage June 23rd, 2009 02:58

Jeans + t-shirt look fine if you have a $350 eagle setup :rolleyes:

Snake Eyes June 23rd, 2009 03:18

Honestly dude, wear Wutever u want. There r some really awesome hunting cams out there. If u want the PMC or merc look then hell ya, mix it up. A lot of us do. Bottom line is have fun. Wear Wut ur comfortable in.

Mudder June 23rd, 2009 03:48

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Originally Posted by Snake Eyes (Post 1012231)
Honestly dude, wear whatever you want. There are some really awesome hunting cams out there. If you want the PMC or merc look then hell ya, mix it up. A lot of us do. Bottom line is have fun. Wear what you're comfortable in.

THAT, is the best answer of all here.

FOX_111 June 23rd, 2009 10:36

Yeah, it's all good for a skirmish... but if there is a milsim with a uniforme rule, don't show up ignoring the rules, or the parking will be the only place you will see all day.

ShelledPants June 23rd, 2009 10:52

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1012290)
Yeah, it's all good for a skirmish... but if there is a milsim with a uniforme rule, don't show up ignoring the rules, or the parking will be the only place you will see all day.

+1.

Unless the game staff have stated in the rules that a strict uniform must be followed, then show up in whatever the hell you want. A lot of milsim games even have a team designated as "civilian/guerrilla" where they are NOT allowed to where military BDU's or military camouflage.

EDIT: Also, people need to get their head out of their ass for scirms without camo rules, I know a certain somebody who runs a hawaiian t-shirt to most games and it doesn't effect his ability to kick ass and chew bubble gum one bit.

Con Murder June 23rd, 2009 13:16

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Originally Posted by Cheesevillage (Post 1012206)
Man. Keep it real and do your own thing.

That said, hunting camo is stupid :D

HAHA, ya one feild here likes 'olive drab' to be the non-cammo BDU. And I told him I rocked some hunting shit, he frowned.
Truth is that I should probably get some tan/olive pants to meet requirements from all areas.
Planning to get that molle vest should keep most off my back for gear right? Or am I missing something obviouse? I know since army of two PMC has been played up a lot. What kinda stuff do you guys use to make yourselves individual yet functional? It hasn't become 'the kid with the most/best toys wins' has it?
What else would keep others from playing with us? (Exclude the obviouse calling hits and curtiouse play style)

CDN_Stalker June 23rd, 2009 13:34

I'm going to make it a point someday to show up at a milsim dressed in borrowed Real Tree camo and get away with it. Because I can. :D

Con Murder June 23rd, 2009 13:45

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1012363)
I'm going to make it a point someday to show up at a milsim dressed in borrowed Real Tree camo and get away with it. Because I can. :D

And all I want is to play acceptably.... I guess all the big ships make waves!

I find that as long as its not blaze orange I can sit in some bush as people get really close, I have had to wait for them to walk far enough away so I wouldn't hurt them!
My buddies in CADPAT and multicam arn't able to say that!


Now if I made a bunch of 'attachments' to hunting camo could I call it a self made guillie? HAHA lies and loop holes!

Deadpool June 23rd, 2009 14:07

I watch "Top Sniper 2" on the Military Channel and the winning team (Army Markmanship Unit) Did their final competition in a hunting camo, not ACU or any other "Hightech" camos.

So bottom line, go for functionality, because even the pros do it!

AngelusNex June 23rd, 2009 14:31

hunting camo is amazing... unless your moving...and it's always good to have a couple of different set of BDUs as some games are: these camos vs those camos and others are tan patterns vs green patterns





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Originally Posted by Deadpool (Post 1012380)
I watch "Top Sniper 2" on the Military Channel and the winning team (Army Markmanship Unit) Did their final competition in a hunting camo, not ACU or any other "Hightech" camos.

So bottom line, go for functionality, because even the pros do it!

Don't watch those shows thinking "it's fact" as the are just entertainment, The us army snipers may use hunting camo, they may not, I don't know, but I do know you should never trust what you see in a television show unless you can find something somewhere else to back it up.

ex June 23rd, 2009 14:34

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1012363)
I'm going to make it a point someday to show up at a milsim dressed in borrowed Real Tree camo and get away with it. Because I can. :D

noted :D

spaceman13 June 23rd, 2009 14:36

Go with the style and era the gun was made,like a swat uniform with an mp40 or thompson would look weird.

CDN_Stalker June 23rd, 2009 14:40

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Originally Posted by ex-royal (Post 1012396)
noted :D

Hehe, I'd have to borrow some first though, not going to blow a wad of cash on hunting camo I'll use once (or a couple times). But hey, if I do show up in hunting camo, you can punish me by making me a "Kill on sight" target for both teams. ;)

FOX_111 June 23rd, 2009 15:33

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Originally Posted by Deadpool (Post 1012380)
I watch "Top Sniper 2" on the Military Channel and the winning team (Army Markmanship Unit) Did their final competition in a hunting camo, not ACU or any other "Hightech" camos.

So bottom line, go for functionality, because even the pros do it!

It's not about functionnality, it's about recreating what the real military do. And uniform wise. if we require a force to look alike, it's not because we all want them to blend in the same way, it's because we want to tell them appart.

Uniforme as in uniformity.

When you play in team, camoflage is second to uniformity.

Kuro_Neko June 23rd, 2009 15:43

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1012426)
It's not about functionnality, it's about recreating what the real military do. And uniform wise. if we require a force to look alike, it's not because we all want them to blend in the same way, it's because we want to tell them appart.

Uniforme as in uniformity.

When you play in team, camoflage is second to uniformity.


Uniformity is only necessary if the team is big enough that you can't recognise all the members on sight. That's very unlikely to happen with airsoft. Also, not everyone can afford to purchase half a dozen sets of kit. The only thing my group frowns on is street clothes and even with that we allow it for newbies. Our regular members are pretty evenly spread over OD, woodland, cadpat and multicam. That level of strictness would only really be needed for hardcore milsim. And our group has even had games like that and not required it.

ShelledPants June 23rd, 2009 15:53

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Originally Posted by Kuro_Neko (Post 1012432)
Uniformity is only necessary if the team is big enough that you can't recognise all the members on sight. That's very unlikely to happen with airsoft. Also, not everyone can afford to purchase half a dozen sets of kit. The only thing my group frowns on is street clothes and even with that we allow it for newbies. Our regular members are pretty evenly spread over OD, woodland, cadpat and multicam. That level of strictness would only really be needed for hardcore milsim. And our group has even had games like that and not required it.

I beg to differ. Most teams which have been around for a while have at least one camouflage which is the "team colour" and then members often have sets of other colours. As an airsofter, if you want any reasonable choice in which team you can play on in an event, it's wise to have set of tan and green BDUs, as this is the common split for teams. Obviously the more strict the milsim, the more strict the BDU sets are.

Ultimately, if you have a favorite BDU type, go buy it and just confirm with the game host about which team it will be allowed on if it's not described in the uniform rule's.

ex June 23rd, 2009 15:54

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1012435)
I beg to differ. Most teams which have been around for a while have at least one camouflage which is the "team colour" and then members often have sets of other colours. As an airsofter, if you want any reasonable choice in which team you can play on in an event, it's wise to have set of tan and green BDUs, as this is the common split for teams. Obviously the more strict the milsim, the more strict the BDU sets are.

Ultimately, if you have a favorite BDU type, go buy it and just confirm which team it will be allowed on if it's not described in the uniform rule's.

quoted for truth.

Con Murder June 23rd, 2009 15:56

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Originally Posted by spaceman13 (Post 1012398)
Go with the style and era the gun was made,like a swat uniform with an mp40 or thompson would look weird.

I have the SIG 552 with extended barrel, covered by a G&P zombie killers silencer. Already painted a nice rusted black/brown.
Thanks guys for helping me, I thought that it was more functional in close proximity. But I will get some tiger stripe camo for games that require Military camo. The PMC is actually our teams theme, about ten of us. BAD GUYS in some games, assembled mercs for others. Makes a great offer for other teams to play against in our opinion. Schedualing though has only allowed us to skirmish as a full team this season (our first).

If it is allowed on feild I'll robably opt for my hunting cammo, but just in case I get to many pissy looks I'll make sure to have some tigerstripe nam shit or something to apease the masses. Thanks for the input I made my decision.

ShelledPants June 23rd, 2009 16:00

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Originally Posted by Con Murder (Post 1012439)
I have the SIG 552 with extended barrel, covered by a G&P zombie killers silencer. Already painted a nice rusted black/brown.
Thanks guys for helping me, I thought that it was more functional in close proximity. But I will get some tiger stripe camo for games that require Military camo. The PMC is actually our teams theme, about ten of us. BAD GUYS in some games, assembled mercs for others. Makes a great offer for other teams to play against in our opinion. Schedualing though has only allowed us to skirmish as a full team this season (our first).

If it is allowed on feild I'll robably opt for my hunting cammo, but just in case I get to many pissy looks I'll make sure to have some tigerstripe nam shit or something to apease the masses. Thanks for the input I made my decision.

Next wad of cash I get, I'm going to spray paint a flight suit neon easter bunny pink and run it as my bdu in a milsim.

Con Murder June 24th, 2009 03:21

So to keep from being hated and killing potential, how does german flektarn sound?

I would like to be a curtiouse player in all respects not just calling hits. In that light how would a set of Flektarn, Tigerstripe, olive and tan sound? I can give up the functionality to gain the joy of quality fun for everyone.

Skruface June 24th, 2009 08:03

As has been said before, BDU's (or not) is usually up to the game organizer. If it's a large game. weekend-long milsim, or something uber-serious, there will be specific intructions on what kind of "team" uniform you can wear, and nothing else will usually be tolerated.

If it's a more low-key, skirmish-type game for a few hours, pretty much anything goes. Again, though, it's up to the orrganizers.

If you want good cheap "military" BDU's, good old Canadian OD's are good, as are Flectarn and Brit Kit. Hell, you can get Propper or Tru Spec BDU's in Marpat or ACU for under $100....

Jixton June 24th, 2009 08:07

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1012363)
I'm going to make it a point someday to show up at a milsim dressed in borrowed Real Tree camo and get away with it. Because I can. :D

I did that and I even had my Tikka M68 30-06 but nobodys wanted me to play... damn cruel life!

Capt. T/O June 24th, 2009 09:52

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Originally Posted by Con Murder (Post 1012824)
So to keep from being hated and killing potential, how does german flektarn sound?

I would like to be a curtiouse player in all respects not just calling hits. In that light how would a set of Flektarn, Tigerstripe, olive and tan sound? I can give up the functionality to gain the joy of quality fun for everyone.


Just as a sampling of a few Calgary based teams...
ETRU - British DPM
SDU - Multicam
Spectres - German Flecktarn
Team 7 - US Woodland/OD
Calcity - PMC look / tan

On a side note, as part of the annual Battlefield series, Battlefield 5.5 will be held on July 18, 2009 at Weekend Warriors in Didsbury/Olds. This is a make-up of a previously scheduled game that was cancelled due to weather.
Game is on from 6 PM to 12 AM. Sign up on JOC to get more details. There were over 150 people who attended last year.
Great game for all levels of skill.

CDN_Stalker June 24th, 2009 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jixton (Post 1012849)
I did that and I even had my Tikka M68 30-06 but nobodys wanted me to play... damn cruel life!

Lol, you really do have bad luck, don't you? ;)

Armyissue June 24th, 2009 12:18

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I think its great when new guys try fresh takes on Camo patterns! My kill count goes up. Definately has great potential as a team camo pattern!!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/17...3c5de2.jpg?v=0



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Originally Posted by Invasian
Hats off to Stalker for nailing me from 200 miles away, through 4 windows,with a .36...holy ouch...

Snake Eyes June 24th, 2009 12:35

Oh god. Did u eat, all that acid?

Loathing June 24th, 2009 16:56

Gonna wear a hit-me vest the next game.

deep in the bush June 24th, 2009 17:19

Know your audience
 
That's the bottom line when it comes to camo etc. If you plan to play to strict milsim rules etc then see what the team or style your area prefers to play with. Go to a game... see what is out there.

If the group is less unifrom and smaller then street clothes (black tshirt) and a set of woodland pants from Giant tiger will even do.

It is just up to the community you are playing in. I am lucky enough to have both in the area.

Just take your stuff with you and see if it's accepted and if not then use a merc look.

Anyhoo man...most airsofters are good people and really deep down are just happy to play.

but really ...just go to a game and check it out. It is well worth it to learn about the community.

btw I would like chicken yellow for my "See Me" vest.

Con Murder June 24th, 2009 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. T/O (Post 1012880)
Just as a sampling of a few Calgary based teams...
ETRU - British DPM
SDU - Multicam
Spectres - German Flecktarn
Team 7 - US Woodland/OD
Calcity - PMC look / tan

On a side note, as part of the annual Battlefield series, Battlefield 5.5 will be held on July 18, 2009 at Weekend Warriors in Didsbury/Olds. This is a make-up of a previously scheduled game that was cancelled due to weather.
Game is on from 6 PM to 12 AM. Sign up on JOC to get more details. There were over 150 people who attended last year.
Great game for all levels of skill.

Thanks dudes, as I am going to be respectful of the community I will as said before get olive and tan to comply. A sincere apology to anyone who took this discussion hard.

huntingbuddy June 19th, 2010 17:16

Camouflage Loadout
 
You can mix and match, but what is the point of camouflage if you are going to have something that is not camouflage to give you away. If anything you will be more easily seen. I did a full load out on BDU at www.predatorbdu.com in MultiCam since I like to travel for different battles.

Drow June 19th, 2010 17:23

Do whatever you want, if other people have a problem with it they're probably douchebags.


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