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Dragate January 26th, 2009 04:37

M4's and Folding Stocks
 
I hope this thread will do better than the last one.

The possibilities atm are the folding stocks from G&G, Dboys and this brand on EbayBanned, which could be G&G as well, seeing as DBoys sells for around 25 bux when this one goes for 50 HK priced: http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.p...products_id=69

Thing is, with these types of folding stocks you must cut part of the receiver to fit them on.

One option is to buy the ICS folding stock (it has a buffer tube installed into it, so no cutting involved), which sells for around 110 dollars on Mach1: http://www.mach1airsoft.com/web/cata...om&id=80&cat=4

If I were to get the folding stock that doesn't come with the buffer tube (aka not the ICS/OA one) would this receiver adapter do anything? http://www.mach1airsoft.com/web/cata...om&id=64&cat=4

Questions for cutting:
1. Is it safe and easy to cut it, and cut it right?
2. After cutting, can crane stocks, stocks that come with buffer tube, full stocks for m4's be installed again?
3. If cut right, and installed right, do they end up wiggling and giggling more than the usuall metal spacing, because you had to cut?

HELP APPRECIATEDD!!! :D

Beazer January 26th, 2009 06:51

You just have to cut the buffer tube is all, no problems with fitment.
I did this when I was going to make a 9mm ar sub gun.

But it looks sooooo unrealistic if you don't have it with the 9mm kit.

coach January 26th, 2009 08:15

get a used buffer tube and cut that. or find one that someone cut too short.

Dragate January 26th, 2009 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beazer (Post 905346)
You just have to cut the buffer tube is all, no problems with fitment.
I did this when I was going to make a 9mm ar sub gun.

But it looks sooooo unrealistic if you don't have it with the 9mm kit.

I think I'll pass on the 9mm haha
Hm, so is the buffer tube like the ics reciever adapter i linked?

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 905357)
get a used buffer tube and cut that. or find one that someone cut too short.

k thanks man

White_knight January 26th, 2009 11:24

what exatly will you have to cut? are you talking about the slot in the bottom or cutting it shorter?

Dragate January 26th, 2009 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 905408)
what exatly will you have to cut? are you talking about the slot in the bottom or cutting it shorter?

I'm not entirely sure, it's like you have to cut it to fit the stock on

DuffMan January 26th, 2009 11:34

Just to confirm, you know that the buffer tube serves an actual purpose on the AR15 besides just sticking out, right?

White_knight January 26th, 2009 11:36

i have an ics and i put i CA stock on mine and it was a bitch, the two little rails on that piece are too thick and i had to dremel them down. whats the make of the gun you are trying to put it on?

Dragate January 26th, 2009 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 905416)
i have an ics and i put i CA stock on mine and it was a bitch, the two little rails on that piece are too thick and i had to dremel them down. whats the make of the gun you are trying to put it on?

G&P reciever. Right now, I can only find two types of the folding stock:
Dboys style (includes G&G) and the ICS one, but the ICS is madly over priced

screwdriver January 26th, 2009 14:34

ive just fitted the top pictured dboys folding stock to my classic army m4a1.
the piece you cut is the guide that is part of the back of the reciever that goes in side the buffer tube.
this is cut down to about 5mm long off the back of the gun ,and the remainder then fits in the folding stock sleeve and is fixed with the supplied shorter screw.
even though you will cut most of the guide tube off the origional sliding or fixed stock can still be refitted with no problems.
i paid 25 pound for the dboy stock in the uk and it fits very well and is solidly made

Dragate January 26th, 2009 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by screwdriver (Post 905519)
ive just fitted the top pictured dboys folding stock to my classic army m4a1.
the piece you cut is the guide that is part of the back of the reciever that goes in side the buffer tube.
this is cut down to about 5mm long off the back of the gun ,and the remainder then fits in the folding stock sleeve and is fixed with the supplied shorter screw.
even though you will cut most of the guide tube off the origional sliding or fixed stock can still be refitted with no problems.
i paid 25 pound for the dboy stock in the uk and it fits very well and is solidly made

wow just what I needed!

Thank you very much for the reply, this will save me from getting the ics 110 dollar stock haha. +1

screwdriver January 26th, 2009 14:42

a quick update, thinking on this if you didnt want to risk cutting your reciever you could find a short length of tube that would fit over the guide ,leave it a couple of mm short then fit your folding stock to the end of the guide tube. you would however then have to fit the origional long stock screw

Dragate January 26th, 2009 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by screwdriver (Post 905526)
a quick update, thinking on this if you didnt want to risk cutting your reciever you could find a short length of tube that would fit over the guide ,leave it a couple of mm short then fit your folding stock to the end of the guide tube. you would however then have to fit the origional long stock screw

This seems like an alternative I'm more comfortable with.
Is it just the normal buffer tubes?
Would I need to buy this long stock screw?

Thank you for your time, much appreciated!

screwdriver January 26th, 2009 14:52

your origional sliding/fixed stock screw should be long enough for the second option.
the spacer tube could be either a cut down old buffer tube or just a bit of alloy tube that would fit over the guide. whichever way it should be cut short enough that atleast 4mm of guide is poking out the end to fit the folding stock to. when you buy the stock all will become obvious.
a word of caution though if your going to go the spacer route it must be cut perfectly square on the ends

Dragate January 26th, 2009 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by screwdriver (Post 905533)
your origional sliding/fixed stock screw should be long enough for the second option.
the spacer tube could be either a cut down old buffer tube or just a bit of alloy tube that would fit over the guide. whichever way it should be cut short enough that atleast 4mm of guide is poking out the end to fit the folding stock to. when you buy the stock all will become obvious.
a word of caution though if your going to go the spacer route it must be cut perfectly square on the ends

Wow. Okay sounds good, I'll take a look after I see it.

Any suggestions for saws?

Styrak January 26th, 2009 14:57

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Originally Posted by Dragate (Post 905536)
Wow. Okay sounds good, I'll take a look after I see it.

Any suggestions for saws?

Dremel is your friend. Or if not, a hacksaw.

Beazer January 26th, 2009 15:12

Oh yeah, just cut down the buffer guide on the bottom of the reciever.
No issues fitting any stock afterwards.http://ar15websites.com/images/syste...6-9-07-006.jpg

That is even with the buffer tube, but thats the only realistic ar that can use a folding stock.
A 416 cannot that is except in the world of airsoft.

Dragate January 26th, 2009 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 905539)
Dremel is your friend. Or if not, a hacksaw.

I'll try to get my hands on a dremel haha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beazer (Post 905549)
Oh yeah, just cut down the buffer guide on the bottom of the reciever.
No issues fitting any stock afterwards.http://ar15websites.com/images/syste...6-9-07-006.jpg

That is even with the buffer tube, but thats the only realistic ar that can use a folding stock.
A 416 cannot that is except in the world of airsoft.

wow lol
tru tru, but that's the beauty of airsoft right?
Alittle surrealism, not entirely realhaha.

TheToastmaster January 26th, 2009 22:07

Has everyone forgotten the LR-300? If you get a correct barrel you can do away with the buffer tube realistically....

Beazer January 27th, 2009 03:35

http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/lr300_1.jpg
sick shit, but good luck finding the parts now to build one.

Tex January 27th, 2009 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beazer (Post 905991)
sick shit, but good luck finding the parts now to build one.

or you could just buy the G&G one and not build it.

DuffMan January 27th, 2009 11:44

A&K makes an LR300 too

Dragate January 27th, 2009 12:48

not really into lr 300's but ya it's pretty much what i'm going for haha
lr 300 witha ras? lmfao

Beazer January 27th, 2009 16:09

Tex. When was the last time anyone brought one of these in legally?

I've seen one guy have it in the past 4 years and he got it through Ken, so yeah good luck.

Unless someone can start bringing in the A and K version.

Tex January 27th, 2009 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beazer (Post 906230)
Tex. When was the last time anyone brought one of these in legally?

I've seen one guy have it in the past 4 years and he got it through Ken, so yeah good luck.

Unless someone can start bringing in the A and K version.

ask your retailers I have never been told no only told sure but it will cost ya more but never flat out no.

and at least one has posted on this site he can and will bring in the A&K model.

White_knight January 27th, 2009 16:19

or he could just do what he wants and not have to worry about downing hundreds into rare parts. so what if he wants a folding stock. its like whats the point of putting those meat mashers on the front of gbb's? i dont think your ever going to be pressing your pistol against someone and needing it to fire, but why do people put them on then? cause it looks cool.

Dragate January 27th, 2009 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 906239)
or he could just do what he wants and not have to worry about downing hundreds into rare parts. so what if he wants a folding stock. its like whats the point of putting those meat mashers on the front of gbb's? i dont think your ever going to be pressing your pistol against someone and needing it to fire, but why do people put them on then? cause it looks cool.

ahmen!! XD

dragwindsor January 27th, 2009 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beazer (Post 906230)
Tex. When was the last time anyone brought one of these in legally?

I've seen one guy have it in the past 4 years and he got it through Ken, so yeah good luck.

Unless someone can start bringing in the A and K version.

Someone else had a GR300 recently.............................

Dragate January 27th, 2009 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragwindsor (Post 906252)
Someone else had a GR300 recently.............................

LOL

TheToastmaster February 1st, 2009 00:59

Sammer did. I got it. :D
It's a joy.


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