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stokes March 19th, 2008 20:25

Systema Flash Hider Removal! In great need of help!
 
So somehow I broke off the plastic Flashhider from the systema Gun. I am now left with the brass cylinder.

I tried heating it from the beginning and my best to take it off but the flashhider just broke off.

I am now stuck with the brass on there and I dont know what to do.

Please hlp!

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Lakonian March 19th, 2008 20:34

errr. DUDE! wtf?

Where did your threads go?

mcguyver March 19th, 2008 20:42

The threads are underneath the brass ring.

I take it you've tried pliers with no success? Best would be a set of 6" or 8" Channel Locks.

dodger_me March 19th, 2008 20:43

lol... were you turning it the right way? :P that sucks,if it cracked your threads off chance are your looking a whole new front end.... 240 bucks

mcguyver March 19th, 2008 20:46

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 672984)
lol... were you turning it the right way? :P that sucks,if it cracked your threads off chance are your looking a whole new front end.... 240 bucks

Not very likely. Just turn counter clockwise to remove the brass ring.

stokes March 19th, 2008 20:49

Im so fuckin pissed off. Now I need to go buy something! freakin hell! Thanks mC I will try to go get some channel locks.

stokes March 19th, 2008 20:50

Im so pissed off I put away the gun.

mcguyver March 19th, 2008 20:51

Get the adjustable ones, not just basic slip-jointed pliers.

You know, I could get that off for you in about 10 seconds. But you're way out east. Sorry to rub that in.

Go buy something. You'll feel better.

stokes March 19th, 2008 20:54

LOl Brad! I need you here lol!... Alright I will head to CT tomorrow and search for adjustable channel locks!

stokes March 19th, 2008 21:21

Hey brad are channel locks something like this:
Amazon.com: Channellock GLS-1 2 Piece Griplock 9-1/2-Inch and 12-Inch Tongue and Groove Plier Set: Home Improvement

Lakonian March 19th, 2008 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 673019)
Hey brad are channel locks something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002TKID8?...S19BK5Y6QFTD9&

I have a CL if you need one, mate.

BloodSport March 19th, 2008 21:42

aka vice grips.

stokes March 19th, 2008 21:56

If anyone in the TOronto area that can lend me a hand taking this thing off its much appreciated!!!

Thanks I will look into those Bloodsport!

mcguyver March 19th, 2008 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 673019)
Hey brad are channel locks something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002TKID8?...S19BK5Y6QFTD9&

Yep.

X95 March 19th, 2008 23:54

I had the same problem with the brass ring. I found my solution on the PTW forums. I heated the ring up using a blow touch and then it came off with vice grips.

stokes March 19th, 2008 23:58

I was trying to search for that thread. Do you have alink for it?

X95 March 20th, 2008 00:08

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Originally Posted by stokes (Post 673311)
I was trying to search for that thread. Do you have alink for it?

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Forum/for...&KW=brass+ring

I don't think this was the thread that I had looked at but they mention it in this one. It doesnt really give much info other than saying to heat it and twist. I didnt have to heat the ring up for long and then it came off relatively easy. I used a dental tool to remova all the dried glue and clean up the threads. Hope this helps.

stokes March 20th, 2008 00:11

Thanks for the info.

So you used a blow torch and heated it up and it came off? I will grab a vise grip tomorrow. Do you think the stove top can heat up that thing? I dont have a blow torch...

X95 March 20th, 2008 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 673320)
Thanks for the info.

So you used a blow torch and heated it up and it came off? I will grab a vise grip tomorrow. Do you think the stove top can heat up that thing? I dont have a blow torch...

Yeah I tried that , lol. I found that the heat wasnt as concentrated as I would like. It was heating up the whole barrel vs the flash hider. I didnt have a blowtorch so I picked up the cheapest one I could find.

mcguyver March 20th, 2008 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 673320)
Thanks for the info.

So you used a blow torch and heated it up and it came off? I will grab a vise grip tomorrow. Do you think the stove top can heat up that thing? I dont have a blow torch...


Buy a little torch lighter at your local convenience store. It will do the trick if you need precision heat direction.

Qlong March 20th, 2008 00:27

If your stove is gas you could, a torch lighter would be the cheapest alternative.. or you could BBQ it.

EDIT: AH nuts to you mcguyver ya beat me to it. :D

X95 March 20th, 2008 00:31

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Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 673338)
Buy a little torch lighter at your local convenience store. It will do the trick if you need precision heat direction.

Wish I would have thought of that, lol. But the good news is that the blowtouch is being put to use with some basement reno's.

mcguyver March 20th, 2008 00:33

Reno's with a torch? I hope you're talking about soldering copper, and not "creative" demolition!!

stokes March 20th, 2008 00:38

I GOT IT OFF!!!!!!!! I DID IT! horray!!!!!!

Thanks Brand and x95. I borrowed my neighbours vise grip thing and I heated the thing up on my stove top and I got it off!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

X95 March 20th, 2008 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 673350)
Reno's with a torch? I hope you're talking about soldering copper, and not "creative" demolition!!

lol, yeah a little soldering.....I am not that skilled to attempt creativity.

stokes March 20th, 2008 00:40

Again thank you so much for all of your help! THANKS BRAD!!!! It was like roasting a chicken I kept on turning it! :P

X95 March 20th, 2008 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 673362)
I GOT IT OFF!!!!!!!! I DID IT! horray!!!!!!

Thanks Brand and x95. I borrowed my neighbours vise grip thing and I heated the thing up on my stove top and I got it off!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Good to hear!!!! I went through the same thing so I am glad I help out a bit.

Styrak March 20th, 2008 02:32

A $2000 gun comes with a plastic flashhider?

Wow...

stokes March 20th, 2008 02:37

Yeah I was really disappointed about that too. Really wanted it to come with a the steel flash hider. But since this was coming from the states it has to be orange.

Ronan March 20th, 2008 04:09

Had the EXACT same problem. Took the brass ring off with a tool that digs in the metal and then you twist the brass ring off. Was a pain in the ass. Same with the barrel nut.

thePiRaTE!! March 20th, 2008 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 673548)
A $2000 gun comes with a plastic flashhider?

Wow...

Unfortunately, most Systema equipment in North America is channelled through Zshot USA, meaning it has to have an orange flash hider (a knock against US law, not zshot). They don't bother making good ones for that purpose, they just toss on throw away versions to meet the law, knowing full well as soon as someone buys it, they are going to remove it. In Canada, most other airsoft distribution we receive is coming directly from Asia - and neither of us has the orange flash hider laws, meaning we don't see a lot of orange tips up here, thankfully. In Asia and the rest of the world besides North America, PTWs come with metal flash hiders (though they are still mounted to the brass ring as the plastic one is, so they are tricky to replace just the same).

EDIT - Congrats Philip on getting it off, finally, without breaking something, lol.

trevor March 20th, 2008 11:41

on my new 08 I think I will have to cut off the plastic hider since it seems like it's been glued on. No big deal since a new 1 is on the way but I should have been able to just slide it off.


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