I want a P90! what one should I get?
 

I want A P90 under $350! Can some one reccomend some good ones?

How bout the Firepower Pulsar? It's $150 Or should I get a TM one?

I'm no expert, but you wont find a good p90 for under $350 in Canada. Your looking at minimum $550. If you go with the firepower your getting what you pay for. I am not sure if you are aware, but you cant order guns into Canada from the US, but if your in the US then your selection for guns is much better. Hope this helped.

I think it's TM or bust when it comes to the P90. I don't think any clones of the TM P90 exist.

Hmm....... I think i might just get the Firepower Pulsar for S.I.R........
'cause I checked on 007airsoft and the p90 is over $500, and I dont have that money right now

Check the ASC classifieds, I'm sure you can find one for a reasonable price.

I guess you kind of answered you own question then. Like it has been said, it's often "TM or bust". And you get what you paid for. My suggestion is wait and save for the TM, and you will get far more satisfaction then you would from a cheaper gun.

Anyway does any one have any mods for the spring powered Taurus PT-92?

I was able to compare the TM P90 (cousin owns one) and the FP P-90... no comparaison... one is a Airsoft Gun the other is... yeah.

Now, I know you'll probably hear this from more than just me but, you really are just better off waiting, especially for a P90. This is not even a chinasoft vs. TM debate as there are no clones of the TM P90, so it really is crapsoft or bust. The closest thing would be the JLS FN2000, it is based on the P90 (the Real steel FN2000 that is.) but uses M series mags instead. But that would not be that much cheaper than a TM P90 anyway (save for the mags.)

Edit; Frick why must people post while I am busy typing.

If you want good deals, get age-verified (that means prove you are over 18) and check out the classifieds section.

If you dont live in Canada, this does not apply to you, but you should really fill out your user profile.

Do not get the that china P90

it is a rebranded WELL D90, which means its an absolutely piece of shit and is worth around 25 dollars in the united states.

I have the firepower P90 it was my first gun I bought it for $49.95 at Forest City Surplus.

Its a decent gun for ROF and FPS. But the magazine is junk. It jams the gun up.
I was told though if you get a TM Mag it fits into the firepower gun. I've used it alot with .12 bbs but as soon as you put in .2+ bbs the mag doesn't push the bbs in. AKA Cheap highcap. SO if you get some Std TM P90 Mags your in better area. For the $50 or so that it is its not to bad for a little shooting but definetly not the best gun you can get.

Get a JG or a Cybergun I got the sig 552 bad ass gun IMO for the $200.

Thanks for necroposting.

Next time you necro, make sure its to tell someone about a gun that isn't a piece of shit.

Echo 1 E90
 

What about the Echo 1 E90. It has a full metal upper receiver and from the reviews I've seen, better quality plastic than the TM for the rest of it. Supposedly it has better texture and less creaking. Crunchmeister wrote a pretty good review on this one.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ght=e90+review

Wow... Nice necropost divigarrett. The info in here was pretty much outdated and you felt the need to revive a 2 year old thread with useless info about a piece of crap gun that will get you laughed off the field. Just a tip - read more, post less.

Now that this thread has been revived, there are now real alternatives to the TM P90. The TM now sells in the $600-ish range, and that's for a used gun, as new ones are hard to come by. Echo 1 and Classic Army both make a P90 now are reasonable prices around $350.

The CA is from their Sportsline series. It's mostly plastic just like the TM. It's their lower line of product and not from their regular high end line. That being said, it's getting good reviews.

IMO, the Echo 1 E90 is the only real choice, and IMO, kicks the snot out of even the TM. Its metal upper makes it worth it, as well as it's reinforced 7mm bushing gearbox and reinforced internals. The only place it's lagging behind is trademarks. For some people (like myself), that's not an issue. For others, they cannot forgive the lack of official trades.

Everything I've read on the CA say the internals (especially the piston) are complete pieces of shit compared to normal CA guns.

Yeah, some are problematic, while others seem to work despite the lower end internals.

Hence why I say the Echo 1 is the only real choice.

Mine is currently being shipped! Can't wait to get it. I've used the TM before and loved it, so if the E90 is even better.... I'm gitty with anticipation of awesome.

I slightly regret selling my p90. TM, high ROF, could play all day with it without tiring my arms. The main reason I sold it? Mag choices. Only left with the 68 rnd mags which weren't that easy to get because of fake rounds, or the high caps which were complete garbage.
And now, just a few short months after, a company comes out with full black mags (so they're good to import yourself) which are 130 round mid caps. GODDAMN YOU WORLD!
http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/6326

EDIT: nvm, not black mags, but clear dark plastic.

Yea, you can get them Airsoftgi. That and there's some retailers here that sell the 68-round JG mags for cheap.

hahah sorry I was doing a search and read this post. I didn't even notice how old it was. Sorry about that.

I've had limited hands-on time with the TM and never got to give them a side-by-side review. I remember the TM looking great, but being very lightweight and really feeling like a toy (which it is, technically). The E1 feels much more substantial. And of course, it performs a hell of a lot better out of the box too. And this thing is a tack driver too. It's completely stock, and this is the result I got out of a test fire. Stray shots are due to my shooting rather than the gun itself. This was done shooting with the gun shouldered, not benched.

http://www.societyssorrow.com/_crunc...pid_bursts.jpg

The only problem I've had is that the cutoff lever failed shortly after getting it, so not it's auto-only. Otherwise it's been problem free. It's been gamed once, and about to be gamed again this coming weekend. I'm very, very happy with it. If you can live without the official FN trademarks, you won't regret this gun.

I have a horrible track record with ECHO1 quality control, they are DEFINITELY lacking in that regard. I guess you got lucky crunch.

No issues to date, and from the other reviews I've read on this gun, it appears to be the norm rather than the exception, at least on the E90.

Urgh, if only Echo1 made the RDS version as well...

HOLY NECRO POST BATMAN!!!!!

TM or TM Clones is the way to go, but TM is first priority. Firepower is well a p90 shaped brick, only good for throwing through windows... actually the Firepower would probably break before the window does.

You should get a TM one... triple rail version so you can put up your own optics of choice. I heard CA was releasing their own P90 series but I don't know if they are any good.

CA already released theirs. It's all plastic model from the Sportsline series with lower quality internals. Some work great, but many have serious internal problems. If you know how to do your own work, this is a minor issue as it's mostly the compression parts which are relatively cheap.

Still, I would never spend $600+ for a TM P90 when there's the metal goodness and good quality of the Echo 1. And seriously, you could replace the entire internals of an Echo 1 E90's mechbox with high performance aftermarket parts, and it would still be cheaper than getting a stock TM.

Actually there's a fix for the P90 hicaps. I found out more or less by accident last fall. I was messing around with my jamming hicaps, and tried out G&G P.S.B.B. 5.95mm BBs, and me and a friend played a whole day without any jams! Up until then we both had problems with both our hicaps (2x each). After that only occasional jams when it's VERY cold \^_^/ I also tried out many of the mods found on the net, but they didn't work, and thus was removed afterwards. Of course you need to keep the mags lubed aswell.

The Marui weighs about 2.2kg, and even more with batteries. The RS version weighs 2.54kg without ammo, and 3kg with ammo. This is even if the RS version has a metal upper receiver, while the TM one only has a plastic one. The RDS, Gearbox and battery is what really gives the TM gun it's close-to-realistic weight, while the RS P90 is quite a simpler design. It's prolly way more hollow inside than the TM.

I might also add that the TM lower has way better plastic quality compared to the Echo1 P90

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I convinced a friend of mine to get the Echo1 P90 from UNcompany. We both had the TM P90 (RDS) versions beforehand, and I badly regretted giving him that advice! For more info about the Echo1 disaster-P90, look here. I was meaning to write a review with pictures and everything, but I'm both busy and lazy :D

What I can say, is that seeing the Echo1 P90 made us both agree that the TM P90 was worth every single penny we had spent on it! Of course we got our guns from UNcompany, but I'm not sure if it's that easy to import guns on your own into Canada. They sure are cheaper than $500-600

Well, I agree with pretty much every response to your little review there. I've had none of the issues you describe. My only complaint about the E90 is that the front grip flexes and creaks an ever so slight bit. Otherwise worth every bit of the $350 I paid for it.

Not sure if it was mentioned in the thread there, but I think he was one of the unlucky few that got one of that baddies. One of the most disappointing things was that they had sanded down lower receiver when the the badly cast upper was the one needing it. It made the upper from the E1 incompatible with both our TM P90s.

Heh, sounds like it also suffered from incorrect repairing.

Yeah, I have a feeling this was those one in a million. Maybe something E1 didn't want either. Who knows.

That's a review for the ACM P90. From what I've been gathering online to date, the E1 and ACM are NOT the same gun, but rather the ACM is a poor copy of the E1.

I can guarantee that my E90 has none of the problems listed in this review. Casting of the metal upper is of excellent quality and is as straight and precise as it should be. Everything is straight, lines up well, and fits together as it should. There are no wobbles, loose parts, etc. This is a solid, well built gun.

I had a chance to give it a side by side comparison to 2 TMs at a game a couple of weeks ago. I'll conceed the TM has higher quality ABS in the main body, although I like the more textured feel / lower shine of the Echo 1. And of course, the TM has all the correct FN trademarks and such, which the Echo 1 lacks. But if that's really an issue to anyway, you can legally import a TM plastic lower for really cheap, and the E1 receiver slides right on to the TM body effortlessly.

Otherwise though, if I had the choice of a brand new TM or E1 for the same price, I would still pick the E1 hands down.

Ah, then I need to rewrite that review. I checked a lot of pics, and it's as close to identical as I could see. I bought an E1 gearbox myself, and everything was identical down to the overlubing. My friend joked that they had assembled it, and then lubed it in a tub full of grease. I laughed, but when I opened it I wasn't laughing anymore. It actually spat grease into my barrel o.0

The E1 mechbox has a retarded amount of grease in it. I didn't clean it yet because quite frankly I didn't feel like it.. but it's on my list of things to do.

I haven't opened my mechbox, so can't comment on its internal lube job. Once I actually need to get into it, I'll report back.

I opened it to swap out the spring with a stock CA one. I think I'll just order a new complete mechbox for outdoor gaming. Gotta love the P90.

I thought it was the body of the P90 (the part that holds the action) that is prohib for import on this gun.

The upper receiver is restricted. That's the part that holds the barrel, etc. It's the part on the real steel that has the serial number. The plastic lower isn't restricted.

Yeah! I bought mine when I was all new to airsoft, and was blown away by how easy it is it take out the mechbox, compared to most other softguns. My SIG 552 is a nightmare to disassemble in comparison. I also decided to go for a 2x mechbox setup, as opposed to upgrading my stock TM one. That way I can have one for indoors (300FPS or less), and one for outdoors (350ish FPS). Just make sure you take off the upper receiver, when you insert the mechbox!