sights do you use them ?
 

Now i know some will look or just not even bother answering this question but i wanna hear at least some other players opinions about having any kind of scopes or red dots mounted on there platform

now i notice a lot of players will run a holo or a acog but half the time you see them shooting they don't even look down the dam thing , now i know it is easy to just lay a rope of bbs down and look off to the side to see where they are going but even soo i know of a few players that have the optic on but it isn't even sighted in right so it's pretty much there for looks

what do you guys think or how do you run your setup kinda like say 7 times out of 10 you will look down your sights ?

Yes.

Sights are incredibly important in CQB, as well as instinctive shooting, for accurate single shots outside of 25 feet.

Outdoors, single shots are important as well, but many games require suppression, and suppression requires volume. When shooting in volume, I often find myself aiming down the sights while tracking the line with the opposite eye.

Just about the only time I don't use the sights as intended, is with the m249... I find the irons are way off and it's easier to just shoulder the weapon and spray liberally...

Sights are important in all scenarios, but especially important in CQB environments. If you know you can put a shot through a small hole (something like a door slightly open, the hole where a doorknob should be, a line spanning across a couple windows), then it allows you to actually do so, and make useful shots in doing so.

Outdoors, it allows you to make the first shot count. Often, when I haven't had a chance to sight in a gun or am using someone else's, I find that I will often have the opportunity for first shot, take it, and have to adjust, giving my target time to take cover and shoot back. In cases where my gun has been sighted in, you can see parts of people sticking out from cover and shoot it.

Sights are essential for accurate shooting.

I very rarely shoot from the hip, and when it happens is when surprised by an opfor and I don't have the time to shoulder the weapon, or similar situation. Needless to say, in these situation my rate of survival is pretty low, since hitting the enemy is actually much harder...

That said, I think that's the kind of thing everybody would know from the start, then again maybe not. Try to draw whatever without looking, it'll look like crap. Same thing when shooting.

About following the BB stream and adjusting, that's a valid reason that would make you ask that question, as indeed a lot of people seems to do so. It sure is easy to shoot at will when you've got 90-120BB+ in a mag... But if you pay attention, most more experienced players won't do that and take the time to aim, and shoot less BB in the end.

Try a few game in realcap and see how things go; You'll WANT to use your sight or you'll find out you're out of BB pretty fast... :D :P

and to both answer i agree 100% i just kinda find it odd i know of a couple of players that might as well spray from the hip and no sights now i had my scar l GBB sighted in from what i know but is it as easy or the same as trying to sight in the scope on a rifle ?

Love playing with people who can't or don't aim.. or use the "stream of white" method.

while they are chasing targets.. they are getting shot with accurate effective fire.

signting in AS vs RS.. same method, just knock a zero off your ranges

I always try to use some kind of optical sight on my markers, reflex sights, holographic, ACOG (one of my favourites) all help significantly in regards to quick and accurate target acquisition.

ahh ok good to know thanks

For outdoor I personally prefer iron sights. A lot of the red dots on the market suffer from too much glare, way too distracting. Although if I could get my hands on a RS eotech I'm sure I would use it.

i use iron sites on aeg's and a scope on my bolt action useually only on 3x zoom.
i have used an rds in the past but i always break the damn things plus the batteries never die on my iron sites, i also find a 1.5-2 times zoom scope handy for scouting but for airsoft ranges the scope isnt really needed for shooting targets out to 200ft with an aeg

Isn't that the point? I don't need to stare down my red dot or holo scope because I can pick up the dot in my peripheral vision. It's also why I'll mount them further forward than a magnified scope so that I can quickly acquire a sight picture far before having the rifle fully shouldered and in position.

from my point of view its your preference vs mine but the fact that you can acquire your sight picture just using your peripheral's is pretty handy

Was the title of this thread meant to read "I the OP don't use my sights, please everyone on here come and tell me it's normal and you all do the same" but that wouldn't fit in the title box?

Pffft who needs sights when you've got retina scorching frickin LASERS!!

Oops, wrong thread....

in 25% percent of cases of laser assault, the victim felt the hit from the laser rather than the bb....

No. What I'm saying is that the people that you see, who seem to not be using their sights, might actually in fact be using them.

There are also times when sighting down the barrel and walking the BB's into your target is an option, when both eyes are needed to track the movement of other more valuable targets. Just depends on the situation.

LOL Who the hell are you? He was asking a question about people not using their sights. He saw a few videos of people not even using their sights.

Stop being a fail troll.

no sorry to disappoint i was just inquiring about what everybody Else's opinion on the subject was but if that's the way you use yours man all the power to you.

What would Costa do?

LOL

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No, the question is, what would you do?

Similar to TANNER I've dumped most of my optics and sights and just gone with iron sights.

You can use precisely-zeroed optics if you want, but wind, random chaotic variations in hopup, shooting while moving, etc, are going to limit how well sights work.

To be good at outdoor airsoft, you need to take shots, evaluate those shots, and follow up with more shots. Once you get reasonably good at this method those follow up shots will usually be out of your barrel before the first ones have fully passed your target, since you'll know early on whether they'll hit or not.

Also to add to someone's post above... Some people who do not appear to be using their sights are in fact using them. I'm one of those people. I often vary the amount of alignment of vision through the sights depending on how much precision I think I actually need, weighed against how quickly I need to make the shot. A casual observer might see me drawing a sightline two inches above my sights and conclude that I don't use my sights, but I'm still using them -- it's just that I'm so used to them that I can work out a rough sightline 2 inches above the sights without having to get a perfect cheek weld.

On the other hand, in many situations (especially when sneaking up on an enemy guarding a target), I'll look directly through them if I can and be as precise as I can.

Both methods work well for different situations, but the bottom line is, you need to spend a huge amount of time aiming and getting to know your sight picture and the characteristics of your gun really well..

Lastly I'll mention that I've tried out a couple heavily-magnified ACOGs here and there and while I personally don't use them ever, I think they are pretty damned useful for reconnaissance as well as evaluating shots and planning followup shots. With magnification, you can track a BB for much longer than without. That said, the extra weight, the terrible eye-relief through goggles, the overall usability, the glare, the cost and the poor close-to-midrange performance has steered me away from these otherwise cool devices.

Iron sights for me.

Caveman can shoot. Caveman still use sights.

I use my sights/optics all the time. What I use them for varies on the situation but I'm not much of a fan of streaming bbs down-range(except in cover situations). Most players I know use them. Handy bits of kit they are ")

In a RS AR15, you can not see a bullet flight path and you certainly don't have a 120 mid cap.

With my airsoft M4, I can see the bb flight path in day light and CQB with a light. So I have only iron sights, but instinctive shooting works for me for distances under 50 feet.

Hosing is the dance of my people.

I've been using sights in the CF, and still using them in airsoft. There's no excuses not to use sights. Except maybe Danke here that uses the Scarface method.

I have always used Iron sights (when I was in Reserves), everyone should practise reflective shooting...in Airsoft most contacts are 30 metres minus (which in most cases where the Assault begins), you should be able to line your sights on any tgt in that range and hit it.

As far as the SAW goes, I usually watch where the "Beaton Zone" or spray of the BB's go. When I taught on the Machinegunners course (years ago) one thing I use to preach is to watch where the strike, tracers and Beaton Zone fall, that is where the cone of fire is, that is where it is effective. Thats why sometimes having a an optical sight on a machine gun is useless. Yeah it is effective to ly up with your tgt but a Machine gun is more effective if you can hit that tgt with a cone of fire (grazing fire) of the gun, watch where the strike and tracers go creating that cone of fire (beaton zone).

You wanna play rough? Okay.

It really depends on what your doing. I've run everything under the sun and found it useful. Iron sights are great for mid range day light and night shooting. In fact I'd suggest every one have an iron sight or wide relief setup on their gun in coexistence with their primary sight. It's very handy to have some for of zoom, wether it's for target identification, or scanning an unknown area for movement or hidden targets; especially before you wander into range. A flip to the side works well here. Mainly I've found a simple reflex style or mildot sight is the best all around. They give you a great focus point, and do not cutoff half your view radius like iron sights. Even a long range rifle scope can work with the right airsoft gun or situation. Here are a few good pointers for anyone setting up whatever type of sight they want to use. For starters make sure it's appropriate for the job your doing (and obviously that your gun can do the job), never use a sight just for looks, make sure you can use it and that it can be adjusted to your gun and hop-up, and try to stay away from any sight that has crappy eye relief, and of course you want to be able to see your BBs flight path; especially if you have to adjust for wind or some other dynamic.

laser dot all the way
 

I have no idea how can you use iron, in my lower mask I am not able to lower my eyes sight low enough to use it. That said, I suck without laser dot. With it, every shot goes perfectly to target. At least that works indoors, I have never played on open air.

Really ? You should consider playing and counting on lasers to get your shots. Most hosts bans them.

If your mask blocks the way, you could always buy a raised mount and play with a Red Dot or Reflex.

Sorry, of course I mean I am playing with Red Dot sight, not actual laser pointing device, they are banned.

Oh haha ok it wasn't clear :P

They also have those mini mesh masks now that just cover your mouth and nose.

ESS Cortex clip with protech dent mouthguard and a beard and you can dump the mesh. As an added bonus, if yer beard is bushy enough you can catch and save bbs for reloads. ")

Bend the mesh / custom cut and shape to your face.

I have always tried to use sights and dots. But what I have found in airsoft, is when I go for that gut reaction snap-shot I tend to pull the trigger before my line of sight fully aligns with the iron sight or optic.

And as soon as that first bb flies, my focus follows that bb and switches to the target. For some reason I ignore any part of the gun in my vision as if it were part of the background.

I take a mental note of the bb's trajectory and then compensate for it during the next trigger pull. I always have the intention of aiming properly with sights but usually end up taking red dots/acogs/magnifiers off of the gun because they tend to not be worth the extra weight.

For cqb I generally use a pistol. I seldom aim with it, I kind of extend my arm in the general direction of the target and magically my hands know what angle to hold the gun appropriately.

I guess it's kind of like being a hitter in baseball. You see the ball coming but it's mostly muscle memory that allows you to hit the ball.

The only exception where I find a red dot particularly effective is in a dark setting. Aiming at a target in the dark is much easier if your eyes don't have to adjust before firing.

Discussing this with my friends acquires the conclusion that I'm ridiculous and this is not proper for actually becoming a better player.

Quoted for the truth!
A lot of players in my area use a scope to aim, where as I take off all the accesories on my top rail, so I get a clean vision of where my shot is going.
Especially in CQB. I direct my follow up shots according to where my first shot went. A good plus is that the CQB facility I play at isn't that big, and I use white BB's.

3 of my 4 AEGs are Ak's, so my sights are crude. For outdoors, I aim the best I can and If I don't hit, I fire moar !

As for CQB, last time I did it (it was with an Aks-74), I didn't really aim. I pointed my gun, without looking the sights, at my target and fired semi-auto. I hit the guy almost anytime and my shots where always centermass.