Prices for TM GBBs are insane!
 

See a few shops retail BNIB TM GBB for around $400 each?? Is that insane??
Why wouldn't we go for some overseas guys to let them boost the FPS a little bit then that is far less than $400, I think.

Well your lucky you have come into airsoft now. Right now there are lots of GBBs that much much cheaper than $400.

The reason people buy TM is because if the quality or parts and their fit and finish. Most people are perfectly happy with a cheaper WE or KJW.

I don't know if this will turn into a lecturing thread, or an "lol" thread.

Edit: in the spirit of not being a dick, yes, $400 is quite a lot of money for a toy gun. Most people just go for the cheaper guns, like the KJWs (I have several, along with my TM), but you buy TM for the quality that clones often lack. Plus it's cool to say you have something made in Japan. *shrugs*

Just as a heads up, if you intend to purchase a gun from overseas that is manufactured at an illegal import limit, and then ask them to upgrade it and attach a note to say it's upgraded, it's unlikely to get across the border without seizure. Border agents go by the manufactured specs, found in documentation from the manufacturer. The only way they can know if it's an upgraded gun, and not just an illegal gun with a note attached to it, is to chrono it. That falls to the responsibility of the RCMP and their 2+ year waiting line.

Dude your looking at the wrong shops, I only paid $275 for my TM G17 BNIB, when your are AV'd a far better selection and prices will open up to you.

A somewhat related question - what will break/wear out first in a heavily used GBB pistol? (Other than the plastic slide).

was it the real full black one or the tinted lower one? Heard that the tinted one is not as good as the full black...

Get age verified. Then you will unlock a treasure trove of deals available locally, such as TM hi capas for half that price.
I would advise against importing airsoft pistols in general.

How many grains of sand exist in my math teachers vagina? No one knows the exact answer.

BUT on a GBB, the things that will go first is the plastic slide if you run propane for any extended period of time. Depending on the gun, you may have things like hop up rubbers get swollen and warped or may break your mag feed lips if your too hard on them. There are lots of things that can break, its just a matter of when. With that said, there are people on here that are running some really old GBBs without too many broken parts.

This is why a gun with good aftermarket support is something to consider when choosing a gun.

Where are you seeing a TM in a shop for $400?

He's not AV'd so he cant link us to retailers. :P

same question to him, don't bother with CANSOFT! Because they just suck!

ooooh it's veerrry expensive
I didn't know of this site

At least the website has a physical address out in BC and two phone numbers. There have definitely been shadier sites.

Edit: Except for the fact that the information section portrays it as a British wristwatch shop. Soooo that's a little strange.

shady. when someone copies and pastes that much incorrect information, run away!

lol http://www.apsram.ca/index.php?main_..._SHOP_SHOWROOM

APS RAM? I'll let you guys know it's a legit shop BUT. Avoid that place is all I can say. Pretty much the same ripoff prices as milsig (hmm.... anyone wonder why?), there are places that are cheaper if you look around but I'm not allowed to directly tell you.

Never heard if those guys or that site before.

EDIT: they also have extremely high prices. And I'm doubting that they actually have anything instock.

Correction

Prices for TM GBB at that store are insane

Well. Even one of our ASC retailers is also selling TM all black pistols at pretty high price.

I just bought a TM G17 with a tinted lower frame from another retailer and replaced it with a Guarder lower frame. The total cost is just the same.

So the key point is that you need to shop around before you buy.

It is a shame that TM GBB price are artificially inflated so much here, making less people can enjoy its good performance and reliability.

He does have things physically in stock as far as I know, the only problem is Milsig level pricing.

Thanks.
I was just wondering if there will be some thing like the tappet plate in the AEG, that generally tend to break first, and if there is some kind of "general order" for things to break in a GBB.

It really depends on the gun. Some will have common problems, others are just a clusterfuck. For instance, KSC P226 will have trigger bars that wear down and hammer springs that lose their strength causing either full auto, or cycling problems on double action. While other guns like my beloved KSC P2009 has lots of very tight tolerances. Once something goes, its very difficult to trouble shoot, and a challenge to fix.

But anyways, back on topic. How bullshit is it to charge over 500 for a desert eagle? Thats like wayyy back in early 2000s pricing.

Hahahaha, that's a term now? Awesome.

Disagree. My stock TM hicapa runs like a champ. Both of em. For years. Very reliable.

Point being, buy something that's proven to be reliable. (TM!)

you are not going to get these gear, located in the UK
http://www.apsram.ca/index.php?main_...PING_LOCATIONS
it quotes that it ships within the UK and mainland ireland
EDIT located in:
Apsram Shop
27 - 29 Cross Street
Reading
Berkshire
RG1 1ST

Wow. CYMA Mp5 for 400$.

And TM PX4 for over $400 !

I see a kp06 for $400. So the TM prices aren't so bad.

everything is about quality... If you look for a Inokatsu or a Vipertech in GBB they are the best by FAR. But offcourse the price is going to be a lot.

Is the same as Systema, Celcius and even Tokyo Marui, they are more expensive than the others but is a matter fo quality.

Yeah, I am thinking about getting a TM for my first GBB. But I may get a used one, and wearing is becaming important.

$570 for a G17? That's a bit pants-on-head-retarded...

Even for a full black one.

So this store is actually based in the UK but has canada in the title? wtf?

http://www.apsram.ca/index.php?main_...PING_LOCATIONS

now I'm really confused

http://www.apsram.ca/index.php?main_page=About_Us

Agreed. But if I bought a TM with tinted lower at $ 280 locally, and replace it with a reinforced Guarder lower frame. I get an even better quality TM at the same or lower price.

Very sad to see someone's greed has reached such extent. This simply do no good for our hobby but just take away many people's opportunity to enjoy TM GBBs.

510 $ for a 1911A1

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...6553137507.jpg

LOL like out of all the retailers that one is able to google, you manage to link us to one that 90 percent of us haven't even heard of.

Also you can't base prices on just one website.

WOW!?!... Everything I saw there is unbelievably overpriced, do yo see what they're asking for their PTW's. Margins like that you only need to make a few sales a month to stay in business. DO NOT buy from this place, even if it's the only place that has what you want. Be a good little consumer and don't support inflated pricing.

A BNIB "all black" TM pistol should run you around $325-375, shipped. If, like Swattiger you can get a clearsoft version and replace it with a better quality non-transparent lower for the same price or less, then you're ahead of the game.

the reason that we, 90 percent of the users, do not know this site, it is due to the fact that all the bits saying that it is a Canadian site is fraud, the only store that they own is UK based, and the gear being TM is probably destined to staying at the CBSA, also indefinantly scamming you in the process

Hmmmmm.....I just looked on their site, about $380 for a TM Hi-Capa 5.1? I know of where to get a 4.3 for about $350...so I wouldn't say their prices are THAT bad. However, that site looks way too shady lol. Watches? That totally seems legit.

But, like they said, you should get age verified if you can (yes, this is coming from a guy who isn't, but I'm not 18 yet, so I can't). I can tell you however, you will be able to find much better deals in the classifieds on this forum. By that, I mean stuff you won't be able to find on craigslist or kijiji...


On a side note, I bought a WE Glock 23F Gen 4 (It has a full auto function wtf) for $200 (I think that I paid too much...TA has a G18 with a silencer for just over $200...), and I've put well over 4000 rounds into it the past month. It's stood up well for me, I have yet to hear bad things about it.

@ Freeze; WE Glocks and WE Berettas actually aren't that bad. It's just their 1911's that suck (and I think it's mainly because of the design where they had knowledge of what works and what doesn't after the fact to make their Berettas and Glocks better).

Well I just dialed in and they said that they are currently located in Pacific Plaza, Richmond, BC and they have everything in stock as advertised.

Anyone from BC here?? I am looking forward to some store gallery.

I am also thinking about the TA WE G18 Gen4, but I wonder if the slide and internals are TM compatible...

I've been there once. Seemed more like a pretty cool hangout spot than a store to me tho hahaha. The guy there seemed friendly.

they are not

But TA staff just told me they are...

actually the slide and frame is compatible, with the 17 not sure about the 18 but they should be similar since they are both based off the marui system. Buddy of mine fitted a Gaurder Frame and slide onto his HK3P 17 which is esentially the WE since its OEM HK3P.

Internals should be similar to a certain extent if the frame and slide fits.

Checked some Taiwan forum posts, and they said that the slide is not compatible... http://www.airsoftcanada.com/images/...s/icon_eek.gif

they are supposed to be exactly the same but some parts will need modding to work as with any other clone.

Dude, the prices are that bad. That's a 5.1R meant for children to use as their "learning gun" I think the fps is only like 180-200fps on that gun. :cheers:

You get what you pay for in airsoft my first gun was 300$ a few years back that was cheap just a g36 forget the brand but it was nothing but trouble. Then i got a G&G EBR 900 just for the gun havent had a problem yet.....well the gun docs had fun changing the spring ;)