A call to all AK purists
 

http://www.strikehold.net/wp-content...a062poster.jpg

HATERS GONNA HATE :D

That's Classic Army's new Krebs licensed KC-89.

VLTOR stock? Gratuitous amounts of quick detach swivel points? Rails galore? Not a trace of wood ? All it needs now is a Magpul polymer mag and it be the perfect AK! :D

Get outta town.

they frigged the bolt in that picture

This AK looks a lot like the ARs that you all tote around. And here I was thinking you couldn't make an AK more boring.

I got an idea!









Buy an AR!!!

I personally think the worst part of that is the top cover rail. That's just unnatural.

it looks like an m4 g36 cross over, but what really matters is it fugly.

Yes. How much rail do u really need. Really.

Oh lord I hope bootyourface doesn't see this. lol

Hghhhhh my guts.....

Hoa mah gawd, do want.

that looks pretty sex

Looks pretty tasty to me

The horror, the horror! Poor AK being disfigured...

Hey an AK that wont feel like shit to shoulder. Will deff get one.

Conker, you already know what is my opinion on that.

HA, it's got a railed cover ON it's cover!
Anyway, hideous gun. I'll take a bare bones AK74M over that anyday

Can I start hating now or should I wait for it to come out?

Vltor stock, RIS, 249 grip, they even added an AR flashider to the damn thing, why don't you just buy an M4, at least you won't look dumb! That's ridiculous!!!

The enhanced fire selector and mag release are the only real improvements over a plain old AK. Everything else is just all kinds of fugly. Looks like some sort of franken-gun. If an M4 a Sig a Galil and an AK had an drunken orgy this gun would be the red headed mouth breathing bastard child with the clef lip that they all wish had been aborted.

Pass... I'll stick to my type 56.

Start now :D

Posting stuff like this is the equivalent of posting child porn.

You sick, sick fuck.

Quick! Fill the thread with pictures of what AK's should look like!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...f/IMG_9106.jpg

You, man, just saved my soul from going to hell!!!

an ak that can mount modern optics? and adjustable length of stock? blasphemy!

i love the look of aks but find them the least comfortable thing to shoulder, and i hete their sights. that thing fixes two of my problems with aks, while maintaining the silhouette i like.

I like mine better....but I do want that selector...

Cause it shoots 30cal, yeaaaaaaaaaah.

I like it. Modern AK's are very nice need to update them at some point. I like traditional but honestly, i would prefer a railed version. It means more options.

Хорошая идея..

i wanna lick her....

Too bad this is not in AV section.. I have so much more to post.. :)

When I was younger, I hated wanna-be-M4 AKs.

Now I'm a bit older and I still do.

Rails on rails upon rails for your operator grade operator...

Wait till we start seeing SVDs and PKM with with M4 stocks. They already got the RPK and AK.

Very similar to my AK
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...88618546_n.jpg

Looks just like my RS CZ858

Still prefer mine, but getting a rail for the dust cover is an interesting idea.

IMO dust cover rail looks better in this guise...

http://texasweaponsystems.com/id1.html

I guess the CA one is less front heavy than mine....does seem to have a good copy of the Vltor stock setup...
http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/im...505/medium.jpg

I wonder if someone will make a shorter barrel for the GHK...

I used to be a hater of "tacticool AKs", but over time I've come to realize that it's all good - an AK is an AK.

Still, I will share this quote with you all from "9th Company" (look it up, fracking good movie about Russian recruits in Afstan);

"Beauty is the absence of the unnecessary" - the Avtomat Kalashnikov model of 1947 is IMHO a gorgeous work of perfection, because it is lean and absent any unneeded widgets, do-hickies or add-ons. A ingenious amalgamation of plywood and steel, simple and brutally effective in design and performance.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417397/

Adding on a bunch of aftermarket parts is often just people who don't truly appreciate an AK trying to turn it into an AR, or "putting lipstick on a pig". I personally don't care for the KREBS rifle posted here, but hey whatever floats your boat.

The real excitement is going to come once the AK-200 enters production as the new standard Russian service rifle. The first airsoft manufacturer to come out with a solid gas powered replica of that will make a killing; and should appeal to purists and tacticool junkies alike.

Pics of AK-200 below;

http://www.gunblog.com/wp-content/up...8-44-17-AM.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2u7au8o.jpg

http://operatorchan.org/n/arch/src/n...ver%20rail.jpg

Not a fan of rails on a dust cover. Why? Because it moves, hang an optic on there and you've got a wandering zero.

On the AK-200 pics it looks like they have a cam or lever at the back to lock it down but still it looks a bit dodgy.

I'm hard pressed to use any of the rails that I do have on a M-platform...but I like the "tactical" AK, especially a slick build like the one pictured in TC's post...and the version in Kokanee's post.

(IMO) Any gun looks silly if rigged up with everything and the kitchen sink...but mod'ed to suit purpose? Yeah, that's a win.

Appears to be pinned front and rear.. so for a dust cover rail.. pretty much the best you can hope for.

If you were going to put an optic on a dust cover.. you would want a set up like this.


On another point.. the foorprint of that mag looks huge.. is it a high cap? a la the Surefire type for M4?

Sixty rounds.

yipes, thats a lot of ammo in one mag for what is supposed to be a standard issue rifle

The TWS one I posted is supposed to work with their own recoil spring seat thing that locks down the rear of the dustcover....

The only rail I need: http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/me...ftrecsmall.jpg

Just what I thought!!!

wood is good ak's arnt ment to be "tacticool" there rugged and reliable not fragile and jam

Anyone that tried to accuratly double tap and ak on a target at 50 yards can tell you that the sights on the stock ak are a load of crap. That recoil manadgement is done only by the shooter and keeping the damn thing on target is a handsfull. Like it or not the ak as evolved and this evolution takes the wood away and adds the rail system and the electronic sights. The ak might be rugged and reliable but it is neither accurate past 100 meters without dedication or controlable.

Hey the 60's called they want their AK back.


wake up people .. wood is 3rd world..

The AK has been hauled kicking and screaming into the first world, where we have things like electronic sights, Weapon accessories.

If you had ever fired an AK you would know that it sorely needed an update.

For it's time.. it was revolutionary, really the 2nd assault rifle on the planet ( StG44 being the first, and the AK really a riff on this gun)
but 64 years later.. we actually can do better while maintaining the robust a reliable elements of this firearm.

I tend to agree about the need for the AK to stop being 3rd world , however something must be said about a nice basic platform that can take shit and abuse and keep going , And yes firing an ak something left to be desired.

This is the perfect amount of rail for what I need. The gun of Strelok.

An AK was created to fire round down the range and thats it. Should it have more it is adding non-necessary thing to it (exept from the sight that is meant to be added to it). I only wish people stoped taking those damn ''Americain'' idea (M4 looking) and started to get their own one like either design a new one or get more people in your squad to fire at the same place so you get more round down the range haha.

I wish the AK only had the improvement needed (accuraty and shoulder feeling) the basic anyway. but not some freaking damn rail ... that make it horrible.

Want an AK get used to Iron sight (the very basic of every weapon in the world)

American Idea? Have you seen what Russian SF are toting these days?

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...R/IMG_0381.jpg

We'll just give the yanks a taste of their own medicine.

Cut down that outter barrel, and so do want. Paint it OD and its all kinda "winning"

QFT.

Wood AK makes as much sense as keeping the old plastic handguard on ARs.

It'll do if you can't afford anything better but it's far from optimal.



That's strangely appealing.

from an airsoft standpoint... all of the AR modifiers and add ons is great from a comfort and modify personalize standpoint... you also get the stronger body (no F'n busted stupid body pin holes!!!!!!) ... etc



and yes.. I'm strangly drawn to the AK'd AR lol.. it's almost tommy gun'esk ...

look at that AK!http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...55769168_n.jpg

I have no experience in shooting a real AK, so I will not comment on it needing updates and such...

But when I think of an AK, I think wood, steel, and iron sights. Anything other than that doesn't appeal to the AK-lover in me.

If you like rails and such on your AK, cool. But don't expect me to compliment you on the field ;)

As much as I hate the look of it, adding rails and modern accessories onto an AK makes a lot of sense. It's a no-nonsense type of gun. It's designed to do it's job without fail. If the accessory helps to make doing that job easier, I think we can consider it part of the practicality that the AK represents. Looking at the ARs on this board makes me forget sometimes that all these fancy accessories actually do something. I think we all forget sometimes that the primary function of a gun is to shoot, and shoot well. Not to keep the same aesthetic look for 60+ years. I don't think I've ever heard anyone bitch about USB ports on CD players before. Bitching about rails on an AK makes about as much sense.

No idea who these guys are, but I highly doubt any version of AK would be used by "Special forces" besides "low budget military spetsnaz". AK is horrible in anti terrorist and hostage rescue operations due to weight, aim, noise, ricochets..

Since some of us are looking for "realism", 99% of the time you would not see "tacticool" AK, so why make one?

http://img.weburbanist.com/wp-conten...01/Corners.gif
Someone please make this for a WW2 game because "it existed".

No love for the AK-74M? or any of the Eastern bloc optics, Kobra, PK-A, POS-1 etc.

You don't know Putin?

And what do you supposed Russian special forces use?

Looks like OMON to me they are like Police swat teams.

Seriously? Like seriously, Seriously?

Does your expertise on firearm usage stem exclusively from video games or have you also picked up valuable insight from reading Youtube comments?

You DO understand Russian-made AKs are built to much stricter tolerances, with better materials and workmanship, than say some Pakistani -made AK that was built using hand tools on a dirt floor in the back of a Peshawar market shop, or cheap mass-produced-for-export Chinese type 56, right? That the Russians aren't running around with the same PoS USD$50 AKs that are floating around all over the Middle East? And they're also using AK74/101/105 in 5.45x39 which easily compares with the Western 5.56x45 (5.45x39 conversion kits are availble for ARs, which essentially consist of a heavier hammer spring, bolt and barrel)?

Listing "aim" as a reason why AKs wouldn't be used tactically (and therefor shouldn't be tacticalized) is circular logic: we obviously all agree the stock sights are useless which is precisely why there's a need to mount modern optics, be it Western or Russian (and again, there are some excellent Russian -produced modern optics, not just the Cold War -era leftovers floating around the M-E.)

Then there's the fact AKs aren't just Cold War vintage and "terrorist weapons": Western Special Forces and private contractors have been known to use AKs. The Polish Beryl assault rifle is an AK variant and like all NATO countries they have a need to mount certain accessories on their weapons.

http://www.fotydostrony.yoyo.pl/Beryl%20TDI%20P.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4641/beryl03.jpg

Slovenian special forces
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1...blisyph7bh.jpg


The only "realism" you have with a wood & metal AK is if you're playing Middle Eastern or poor former Soviet block country. (or if you're going back in time to play Viet Cong or Cold War Chinese/Russian).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_JBmTdofdR...1600/ak-74.jpg
AK-74M in 5.45x39 the standard Issue rifle for the Russian Military. Black Polymer furniture, sidefolding stock. Optic rails to mount anything from Scopes, to optics and Nightvision rifle scopes. A GP-30 underbarrel grenade launcher can be added. It is supperior to the 7.62x39 rifles in accuracy while maintaining the same reliablity. However it is not uncommon to still see the occasional AKM being used for knockdown power. As Drake said there are plenty of excellent optics avalible for the AK series rifles with a optic plate.

The idea behind a purist is the image of the iconic AK. Not this AK that you just slap rails and magpul and call it a day.